WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Hammer and Pickle 8:57 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Vegan diner?

mentor 7:43 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Ich gebe auf

gph 7:38 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
You're right with wegen - wegen deiner is nowadays seen as rural.

However, the equivalent of deinetwegen doesn't exist for all prepositions taking the genitive.

There's a debate about whether "laut" = (according to) takes the genitive or dative, but there's a recent example of the pronouns used with it if it is assumed to take the genitive here: http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/zwiebelfisch/zwiebelfisch-lauter-erbauliches-ueber-laut-a-325168.html

(It is "laut seiner", but illustrates the principle)

*takes Stroh from behind ear and chews on it*

frank marker 5:27 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Sorry gph, but I've never heard wegen deiner in my all too many years of listening to and reading German.
I can only imagine that it might occur in some archaic text. I stand to be corrected of course, but surely you should use deinetwegen.

(My Hammer Grammar is elsewhere at present so I can't check to be sure.)

gph 5:19 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Wegen Deiner, ja.

There are verbs which take a genitive object too.

(Admittedly, these uses of deiner are on the way out, but they haven't gone, yet)

frank marker 5:12 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
gph 11.09

You are indeed correct to a certain extent. I didn't want to go through all the cases.

Can you give me an example of where the genetive deiner means 'you'?

Swiss. 11:46 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Iford its Dashacklar

Hammer and Pickle 11:11 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

gph 11:09 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
There are loads more words for you in German - du (nominative case), dich (accusative), dir (dative), deiner (genitive); Sie (N & A), Ihr (D), Ihrer (G); ihr (N), euch (A & D), ihrer (G) - i.e., 8 (cf 12, the theoretical number if there weren't forms shared between grammatical roles).

But Anglo-Saxon was even worse - the plural number split into dual (used when talking to two people) and, er, "plural" (used when talking to more than two).

Ilford Hammer 11:02 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Toshack means bollocks in Turkish. The source of endless amusement when John Toshack managed them.

Mex Martillo 10:09 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Pastanaga
Catalan

frank marker 9:09 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Flitterwoche
Badezimmerschrank
schwanger

You have 3 words for you in German.
du, ihr and Sie.
Use du for friends and family, ihr when addressing 2 or more friends / family members and Sie for anyone with whom you have a formal relationship.

If you get confused most Germans will be sympathetic towards you, as it confirms that you are clearly not part of the master race.

SDKFZ 222 5:07 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Flitterwoch: German for 'Honeymoon.'

SDKFZ 222 5:06 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Schadenfreude: German for to find satisfaction in another's misfortune (quite often used in football situations.)

Ronald_antly 5:04 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
What is the German word for "you"?

gph 3:23 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Главата ми боли

Hammer and Pickle 1:54 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
spadaj dziadu

panamahat 1:54 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Chi chi ,
A piss in Colombia & a little baby in Panama ??

Alfie 1:45 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Schvanger / pregnant in german

Einchorchen - squirrel in german

Badezimmer schrank - bathroom cabinet im getman

The only phrases of that guttural language i recall from my sojourn on prussian soil. Remembered purely for the beauty in the saying of them, neither more nor less than that sir.

Hammer and Pickle 1:42 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
Pre-modified noun phrases.

English simply rocks

Saul Bollox 1:40 Sat Nov 8
Re: Great words in Foreign languages
The Norwegian word Fitte is very nice

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